I wish America, like every other civilized nation in the world, grew some balls and stopped treating its 18-21 year-olds as some piece of uncivilized shit. (It turns out people are really good at following the standard you set for them -- by setting the standard for one specific activity to an age inconsistent with the other standards you create a special class which is fueled by rebellion, anger, and resentment)
Brett Neese
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I agree. But I was speaking more toward the nice lack of children, strollers, etc at the fest. 18+ would've been just as well.
Derek Brooks
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hahahahah (sorry, the rebellion, anger, and resentment got the best of me again)
Brett Neese
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Brett, a fair percentage of 18-21 year olds, and 18-29 year olds also quite frequently, are pieces of uncivilized shit.
Christian Renaud
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...or maybe, just maybe, they're merely filling the role those superior to them have defined for them. adolescence and young adulthood has never lasted as long as it does now
Brett Neese
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I prefer the term "relegated them to", if you please.
Christian Renaud
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Fair enough. My point remains. People as a whole have a nasty tendency to be just as mature as you expect them to be. Expect and reward maturity and maturity will follow.
Brett Neese
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To paraphrase Heinlein, Young men should be shut into a barrel and fed through the bung-hole until they reach the age of thirty. At that point, one can make the decision about whether to let them out or permanently drive in the bung.
Christian Renaud
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Heh. You said bung hole. (Also ... I am 32)
Derek Brooks
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Yes, we let you out on account of good behavior. We likely wont decide the same in Neese's case.
Christian Renaud
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To quote Jefferson: "The reflections that the boys of this age are to be the men of the next; that they should be prepared to receive the holy charge which we are cherishing to deliver over to them; that in establishing an institution of wisdom for them, we secure it to all our future generations; that in fulfilling this duty, we bring home to our own bosoms the sweet consolation of seeing our sons rising under a luminous tuition, to destinies of high promise; these are considerations which will occur to all."
Brett Neese
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Jefferson had lots of time for deep ruminations like this while the day to day work was done by his six hundred slaves.
Christian Renaud
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irrelevant ad hominems are always fun!
Brett Neese
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in any case. We're missing the point. Crying babies and strollers are annoying.
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That would have made MV experience much different
Nathan Deutmeyer posted
I wish America, like every other civilized nation in the world, grew some balls and stopped treating its 18-21 year-olds as some piece of uncivilized shit. (It turns out people are really good at following the standard you set for them -- by setting the standard for one specific activity to an age inconsistent with the other standards you create a special class which is fueled by rebellion, anger, and resentment)
Brett Neese posted
I agree. But I was speaking more toward the nice lack of children, strollers, etc at the fest. 18+ would've been just as well.
Derek Brooks posted
hahahahah (sorry, the rebellion, anger, and resentment got the best of me again)
Brett Neese posted
Brett, a fair percentage of 18-21 year olds, and 18-29 year olds also quite frequently, are pieces of uncivilized shit.
Christian Renaud posted
...or maybe, just maybe, they're merely filling the role those superior to them have defined for them. adolescence and young adulthood has never lasted as long as it does now
Brett Neese posted
I prefer the term "relegated them to", if you please.
Christian Renaud posted
Fair enough. My point remains. People as a whole have a nasty tendency to be just as mature as you expect them to be. Expect and reward maturity and maturity will follow.
Brett Neese posted
To paraphrase Heinlein, Young men should be shut into a barrel and fed through the bung-hole until they reach the age of thirty. At that point, one can make the decision about whether to let them out or permanently drive in the bung.
Christian Renaud posted
Heh. You said bung hole. (Also ... I am 32)
Derek Brooks posted
Yes, we let you out on account of good behavior. We likely wont decide the same in Neese's case.
Christian Renaud posted
To quote Jefferson: "The reflections that the boys of this age are to be the men of the next; that they should be prepared to receive the holy charge which we are cherishing to deliver over to them; that in establishing an institution of wisdom for them, we secure it to all our future generations; that in fulfilling this duty, we bring home to our own bosoms the sweet consolation of seeing our sons rising under a luminous tuition, to destinies of high promise; these are considerations which will occur to all."
Brett Neese posted
Jefferson had lots of time for deep ruminations like this while the day to day work was done by his six hundred slaves.
Christian Renaud posted
irrelevant ad hominems are always fun!
Brett Neese posted
in any case. We're missing the point. Crying babies and strollers are annoying.
Brett Neese posted
Spoken like a non-breeder.
Christian Renaud posted
I wish everywhere was 30+
Clint James Ecker posted
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prettyrickkki3 posted
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